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One other idea that I’m not quite sure how to place.

My son is obsessed with the Magic School Bus books. His two favorites are the last two Joanna Cole wrote MSB and the Climate Challenge and MSB Explores Human Evolution. I really like these two books because 1) they are gigantic in scale yet still accessible to kids 2) they address “controversial” topics and 3) they both include students from other countries who join the kids.

Anyway, when I was leaving to go do this Lab, I told my son that I was going to go work on the climate challenge. And I thought how much exciting that sounded than “I’m going to talk with some people about climate change.” For him and his generation, it certainly will be a challenge and not some far-off thing.

I am not proposing more wordsmithing on climate change/crisis— I think that topic is overdone. But I wonder if there is some way to tell this story so kids (and all of us) feel like they are part of the story and always have been… that it’s not an activist choice but just a part of being alive. Certainly my son cannot conceive of the idea of a world without Legos or Paw Patrol… for him those aren’t things that happened in history, but a part of his ongoing being.

I think epics are like that too — that’s what I recognize in the Star Wars comments. The scale makes you feel like this story has always been around and will always be around. I think that’s what we have to achieve.

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I just wanted to say how happy I am about how *generative* all these comments have been. One thing I felt very aware of as I was writing was that I was not walking on untrodden ground… that people living and dead have also approached the problem of how we address this crisis with story. Now it seems even clearer to me that “epic” is just a way of organizing those ideas.

Those ideas include the works cited by LeGuin and Macy… I wonder what else might belong there. Certainly some works of fiction. It almost feels like the establishment of a new canon, but one that can still be alive in the present moment, the way religious people read their texts.

I like the idea of beginning to weave the epic with some of the stories from the recent past. I think we can use the way Greta’s story unfolded as a case study of that. I kept a picture of Greta on my desk for a long time — she was like my saint. Specifically, I felt like she reminded me to focus on being courageous and not viewing everything I do through the lenses of my career or what people might think. And that made me feel less alone.

I think that’s what we are going for, especially in a time when the narratives we might have felt we were once part of are collapsing. Some new story that can include all of us and our future on this planet.

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